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Appointment with Prof G

Postby Sez » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:02 am

Thanks to everyone who sent me PMs wishing me good luck for my appointment on Saturday :D

The trip down on Friday was hideous - five hours on trains, two changes and a missed connection left me feeling very cross and fidgety. Didn't help that hubby's back is really bad at the moment (his GP thinks there might be some nerve damage) so there was him hobbling along on his crutches and me in the wheelchair (I'm sure people must have thought we'd been in a serious accident :oops: ) harrassing the poor station staff into helping with suitcase and chair.
I got put in the wheelchair space on the long train trip from Darlington to Birmingham, as I thought it was booked for me, and then someone got on at York and the space was apparently booked for him :shock: . So my chair wound up sitting in the aisle with people huffing and puffing every time they wanted to get past it (never mind that it was blocking exit for people in an emergency).

But the appointment itself went really well. Prof Grahame said that I shouldn't have had to have referred myself and that it's odd that the hospital said they didn't have the funding to pay for it - as they don't have to. Funding comes from the PCT. But it was well worth the money - I got an "official" diagnosis of EDS and am being referred all over the place. Prof G is writing to my consultant and my GP with a list of things that I need, from pain management courses to a physio that actually knows about the condition. From what I'd said about my previous experiences with PTs, he said my joints just can't handle that amount of "pummelling" and I need someone sympathetic to the condition. I am also being referred to a professor who specialises in the "neurological" (at least I think it was neurological.. it was a big word starting in "ne") side of EDS as I had a high score on the list of other symptoms (i.e. mental and physical fatigue, dizzy spells etc), so I might end up spending a couple of days in hospital in London (not a happy thought - I don't cope too well in hospitals and freak out at having to be alone, but if it helps it will be worth it). I'm also being sent to a podiatrist for advice on ankle supports.

All in all, it was a really good appointment. We're going to try to get hubby referred to see him soon, as we're all fairly certain now that he has the same problem, and my mum is going to keep an eye on my younger brother who has shown some hypermobility tendancies and has spent years complaining of "growing pains". So definately well worth the hassel and difficulty of getting there, and my mum paid for the appointment itself :wink: .
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Postby ladyred » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:59 am

Hey Sez - glad you got your diagnosis, it was worth the trip. From your posts you knew that was what was the outcome would be anyway and I think it's a good idea to persevere even when others can sometimes doubt you. I always knew, right from being a child, that there was something not quite right. Everyone always thought that because I was tall and strong looking, I would be the one in the class that could do all the heavier tasks that the more fragile doll types couldn't possibly manage. I was always the one that crawled into bed in agony at the end of the school day . I got my diagnosis this year in July and the relief was massive because now I know that it's ok to rest and ok to have bad days without feeling guilty or lazy and knickers to what everyone else thinks :wink:

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Postby LianneS » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:02 pm

Fantastic Sez,

Maybe now you can show some concrete proof to those idiots you work with!!!

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Postby Sue New » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:45 pm

Dear Sez,

I am please to hear your appointment with the Prof was so productive, and you now have a definitive diagnosis.

It sounds as though you have joined me and others in the long queue to see Prof Mathias about the Autonomic Disturbance :wink:

Take care,

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Postby Sez » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:07 am

I got my written report through the post yesterday... talk about speedy! :D

Prof G noted all the basic history I had given him and through the course of the report notes possible things I may suffer from which are related to the EDS - autonomic dysfunction (apparently I had a score of 26/30) and POTS and lots of references to "chronic pain syndrome". So hopefully my consultant will finally start to take me seriously. The Prof has also made a list of all the help that I need, such as Pain Management course, physio with someone who knows about HMS, etc, and he has noted that he will be writing to Prof Mathias.

He also commented that he will be happy to review me on the NHS at the hypermobility clinic and that is "unfortunate that I felt it necessary to seek help from the private sector" :D
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Postby suzannehorne » Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:30 pm

Professor Graham is so fast as senting a report to you/gp/physio about a appointment at the hypermobility clinic. Another good thing is that he seems to make sure that you also get seen by a physio quickly and pain management. Although I have only seen him 4 times (due to the distance), he often writes to my gp and physio and the psychologist at the pain clinic to find out how I am getting on. He is brillant
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Postby kezzykat » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:22 pm

suzannehorne wrote: Another good thing is that he seems to make sure that you also get seen by a physio quickly and pain management.


Professor Grahame is absolutely brilliant there is no doubt. He may "make sure" that you are seen by the knock on effects of his good name or the fact that his name and experience and the sheer implications of your appointment outcomes have an impact on your local trust..... However he has no control over your LOCAL PCT who actually hold the purse strings.

I saw Prof G isn August, his letter was strong to my GP saying that i was in a "sorry State" and outling the pitfalls of the local PCT and very indepth things i needed doing. I am STILL waiting for the PCT to actually do stuff at local level and i have been fighting every day.

My condition has worsened with now total paralysis in my left leg, to the extent where I have to catheterise myself several times a day, and a miriad of other stuff and yet the trust are still dragging their feet.

this is by NO MEANS Prof G's problem nor his fault. I also saw him privately . He did EVERYTHING to help me at every stage and has been fantastic, I just wish to point out that although he has pointed out and suggested what you need and relayed this in wrting to your GP and possibly PCT (he sent copies to my GP, PCT, Ortho who wished to hack me into bits and the rheumy who had (and still does) refused to see me altho he has never seen me) ....Prof G has no monatary power in your local trust. I just want you to bear that in mind and approach your trust with guarded optimism.

Of course being a world renound specialist does make any PCT with half a brain listen up and do as they should be, unfortunately you may live in an area such as I do, where they still haven't realized they are leaving themselves wide open for a law suit.

Sorry if I sound like I am a nut case, I probably am, but all I say here is true. I am an RN and believe me I have a little knowledge of how the system works :)

I am glad you got seen and sorted Sez.

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Nearest train station for new UCLH Hypermobility Clinic?

Postby Sue New » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:49 pm

Hi Everyone,

First of all, Happy New Year to everyone. Let's hope that 2006 turns out to be a better year for us all ...... :pray:

I am due to see Dr Hakim on Thursday (I have been called in to see him at short notice :think: ) and I wondered if anybody has been to the Hypermobility Clinic since it changed location. Anyone know which is the nearset tube/train station to use?

Take care all :wink:

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Postby nonyanomemory » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:08 am

Hi Sue, am sending you a pm - hope it is helpful. nonya
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Postby sandy34 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:10 pm

please help me too ,i am going to see the same dr at the hypermobliity clinic i was originaly going to see prof.graham but i had a letterover xmas ckangin it to dr hakim is he as good . i need info to to get there as there is no parking or very limited.
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Postby shellbell » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:23 pm

i am the same- have had my appointment changed three times now!
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Postby Sue New » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:55 pm

Hi Sandy & Shellbell,

Thanks to Nonya's link, I have found out the nearest tube station is Warren Street.

Here is a link to the UCLH site:

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I had my initial appointment with Dr Hakim and found him to be very thorough indeed. I have had some troubles myself with followup appointments and that is one reason why I have been called in at short notice to see Dr H tomorrow. The secretary explained that during the hospital move, some of my file went missing (it's not just my local hospital that loses my file :roll: ) and there has been a bit of confusion over my referral to Stanmore. Hopefully a lot of these issues will get resolved tomorrow.

I think that you will be fine with Dr Hakim. I am looking forward to my appointment with him tomorrow as there is a lot to discuss since I saw him last April.

Are either of you at UCLH tomorrow? My appointment is at 12.30pm, so maybe I will see you there.

Take care and good luck :wink:

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Postby shellbell » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:10 pm

mine isn't for a month yet- feb 9th. not holding my hopes out on the time though lol- its been changed so often i've lost count! still, i can't complain at all- i got the referral by total luck. am still taken aback to be honest!

hope it all goes well tomorrow sue!
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Postby Sue New » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:09 pm

Hi Guys,

Just a quick message to let you know I had my appointment today with Dr Hakim. It went very well and everything I wanted to discuss was covered. I will post about what happened another time, but I just wanted to let you know that Warren Street Tube Station is right across the road from the new UCLH hospital in Euston Road - very convenient indeed :D .

The hospital is very modern and new, with lots of modern art work scattered around - such seethrough walkways with works of art in them (not very good if you suffer from vertigo - and large stones placed strategically around the building). One word of warning, it is a big place and the clinic is held on the 1st floor (in Outpatients) so expect a lot of walking.

Anyway Shellbell and Sandy (and anyone else due to see Dr H soon), good luck with you forthcoming appointments, I hope they go as well as mine did :wink:

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Postby nonyanomemory » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:56 am

Hi Sue, am so pleased that today was helpful, don't forget to let us know the outcome. nonya
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